Game Information

SinThai Football Club VS Westlanders United

Match Date: 3-Jan-2010

Day: Sunday

Venue: Marsiling Sec School

Things to bring: Team Fund $10, Black shorts and White socks

*Meeting time will be 11.30am at Jurong East Mrt Station.We must be at field by 12noon.

*It is a astro turf field;wear the right pair of boots.

Training Details

What:Training

Where: AMK Field

When: Sunday morning

What to wear: Red jersey,Black Shorts/Socks

Meeting time will be 8am Jurong Mrt Station. Bring team fund.

We only have a week left to talk the tactics out and train them effectively before the matchdays resume.Expecting a full team turnout. Please do not be absent without a valid reason.

Inform by Friday if anyone is unable to make it...

Training Info...

What:Training

Where: AMK Field

When: Sunday morning

What to wear: Red jersey,Black Shorts/Socks

Meeting time will be 8am Jurong Mrt Station.Be Punctual.Team Fund will be 5dollars only.Those who owe outstanding pay up.(Esp. Anandraj $35 inclusive of upcoming training)

*Drink plenty of water before attending training

Training will be very intense and different.

Personal request from Captain: Do not drop out of training by faking injuries just because it is hard.Push youself the extra mile for the team. Good teams are not given everything;they fight for everything.

BE PUNCTUAL....See ya guys in training.

Comments are welcome.

http://www.soccer-training-info.com/fitness_and_nutrition_guide.asp

Training Info...

Game Infos...

(***Please note that you must always check the official website for fixtures.Subjected to change)

Westlanders United VS Barracudas Football Club

Match Date: 13-Dec-2009

Day: Sunday

Venue: Queensway Sec School

MATADOR Sunday League 12

Meeting time will be 1pm at Jurong East Mrt station.
We've got to be at the field/venue by 1.30pm as we have booked a photographer to take a team photo.
Remember that if we do not submit the team photo by end of this week,we'll get our points deducted.

Bring along team fund of $10.
Bring along all your neccessary soccer gears.(Esp.Black shorts and White socks)
***Navin and Shahran are to bring along passport size photos along.


Team News

Westlanders United take on Barracudas Football Club at the Queensway Sec Arena with all the players fit, except NSmen Sasi and Johann who are still a doubt. Versatile Mat Noor cannot commit this week due several reasons.Haikal is also having his NPCC camp and won't be able to make it.
Ravi and Jagan may line up in central defence as per normal, away from their craving position of strikers, and Coach has revealed they are likely to play in the front when the right time and situation occurs .

Fellow winger Sathya is expected to fill-in at centre-mid along Murukesh again, as the makeshift of midfield continues.
With Westlander's usual midfielders expected to perform, the likes of Navin, Man-of-the-Match Ryan could start in their place, as strikers Reshi and Umar are most likely to start.

"Finding good players is easy. Getting them to play as a team is another story." Casey Stengel

Match Details!

(***Please note that you must always check the official website for fixtures.Subjected to change)

 Westlanders United VS Real Flamengo Football Club

Match Date: 6-Dec-2009

Day: Sunday

Venue: Turf City - Pitch 4
Kickoff:1pm

MATADOR Sunday League 12

We've got to be at the field/venue by 11am.Meeting time will be 10.15am at Jurong East Mrt station.Late-comers will not be included in the first team line-up.

Bring along team fund of $10.

Bring along all your neccessary soccer gears.(Esp.Black shorts and White socks)

If you don't have white socks,buy one pair asap.

***New players are to bring along passport size photos along.

Listen Up!

Our team fixtures are up! Please check the league website which is in the useful links column.I cannot post the team fixures here as Espzen does not encourage us to do so,because the venue might change every now and then.

I bet you will be excited about the league as it consists full coverage of our games.This league therefore enables us to be picked up by scouts.There is top scorer,best performer,match analysis,match review,post-match reactions so on and so forth.

Keep up with our official league website also.

Training Details

Training:Ngee Ann Polytechnic's Kismis Field.

Time:8am to 12noon (Sunday 29th Nov 2009)

Disclaimer:We have booked the field for our session. Please do not be late because if we start late,we still must leave by noon.Be considerate and turn up on time so that we can good use of the field and time.

Getting to the field: Nearest MRT station Clementi, Buses Available 154,61,151,75,184,52

Things to bring: Fund of $5,Water Bottle and Wear Red jersey and Black Shorts/Socks.

Note: We will be registering the new players by next week for the league.Players who have not passed me your passport size photos,bring it along next week.

We are happy to see the current commitment,this will be the stepping stone to move forward. Let's do this together comrades!

Here We Come Again!

This week training showed that we still have what it takes to be a team.We got a week more to prepare for the league.Training details will be updated by Wednesday.

Team Funds will be 5 dollars till tournament starts.After that it'll be 10 dollars per week so that we can make up for payment of $150 for each game.

We will be registering the new players by next week for the league.Players who have not passed me your passport size photos,bring it along next week.

Training details...

Training at Amk Field. Starting time 9am.

Bring team fund of 5 dollars and be punctual.Wear Red jersey and Black shorts/socks.


Meeting time:Jurong East 8am.


Inform blog if you have any enquries...
 
Rain or shine,no matter how many players;training will be on!
 
Those who say they are committed to bring this team up.Use this chance to prove it.
 
 
 

“Nothing great in the world has ever been accomplished without passion.”
 

Important Infomation

As you can see, our team has almost become inactive due to the fact that our players are not showing enough commitment.Today; our team reaches its 3rd year anniversary under Coach Sam.



On these very day, 15th Nov 06, our team started off with 26 players beating various teams from the West. We were well known for our competitiveness and zest. Today is the day where we are supposed to share our greatest memories with the team about our team. Unfortunately, the opposite just happened.

We are only left with 10 players. Out of the 10 only 3 excluding Coach has been with the team since the beginning.



A big salute to these players who have made the week in and out; even though the attendance had barely reached a total of 13 players. These players are the ones who made Westlanders.

Although, we were disappointed with the others, we still made it to training even though it was held about 16-17 stations away from Jurong.We made it there even though Coach scolded us unfairly and unduly because of the rest. We made it there even though we knew Mondays were schooldays. We made it there even though we knew we will lose our good 8hrs sleep.



We made sacrifices. All the 10 of us went through shit to come trainings. One of our players discarded his India trip with family for the sake of our tournament. Our Coach loses his job to conduct trainings. Why?!



Because we loved the team and football. That passion will not change from or after today.

We are going to stand together in this tough time like how we did in the past.Westlanders could not continue its venture in ESPZEN league because our squad does not have the minimum amount of players.

Fellow Westlanders (those who still stand), as your Captain and a friend I am announcing to you that Westlanders is going through the stage of re-building the entire team from scratch. Few has emailed me regarding the cancellation of training for the past few weeks.This is the reason, the past 2 weeks only us were willing to come training. The rest as you know ignored the team messages. I called/emailed/blog/msn/smsed them all in various way. The same answer came on a Saturday night 9hrs before training upon us contacting them that they have something on.

Because of this Coach has been deeply hurt. He planned a lot for our anniversary today. But all his dreams were shattered. He has not answered his call to anyone in the past 2 weeks.

I am sure that Westlanders will not end today. But in this unusual time I am urging the 10 of us, the last men standing to stay close and re-build Westlanders back to its glorious times. We have to be patient and move step by step to achieve what we want.

Westlanders turn 3 today and we will be with it till it turns a hundred. We are not just an ordinary team, we are a big family.

Life has it's circle.We will get players whom are more crazy with soccer and more obsessed with soccer.

Westlanderians gear up to revive this team…

This is the beginning!

Training Info for 15th nov (Updated)

Training at Amk Field.10am. Bring team fund of 5dollars and be punctual.Wear Red jersey and Black shorts/socks.
Those who have yet to return the training kit,bring it back this week.
Meeting time:Jurong East 9am.
Inform blog if you have any enquries...

News!

Included to pioneers of Westlanders from today:

You guys are expected to maintain the teams aims and goals.

Kishore
Satiesh
Madnoor
Murukesh
Navin
Reshi
Anandraj
Hyrul

Congratulations!

Training Info

I am sorry last week some of you guys did not see the blog update and came to the field.That's why,i encourage you guys to check the blog all the time.

Anyway,training is on this week.Bring team fund and be there on time.Training at AMK Field.10am.
Meet at jurong east mrt station at 9am.Thanks.Wear red jersey and black shorts.

Training Cancelled!

Training cancelled today.

It will only resume next week.Prepare for that week.

Back to Training...

Venue:AMK Field

Time:10am

What to bring/wear:Red jersey,Black shorts,Water Bottle and Team Fund

Those who are supposed to return training kit and bring passport size photos,Bring it.

Be Punctual.Those who owe team fund also pay up.Inform blog if cannot make it. Gottta prepare for upcoming tournament.

Happy Weekend...

No training this week due to Deepavali celebrations.

Enjoy your weekend! Wishing all players a Happy Deepavali...

Training will resume the following week. Team attendance is getting weaker weekly,take this break to reorganise your schedules and be back the following week.

Training Information

Training at Rulang Field

When:Sunday (11th Oct 2009)

Starts: 9am

Bring Team Fund of 5 dollars.Players who owe the team fund bring fund accordingly too.

Wear Red Jersey,Black Shorts and Socks.

Training will be conducted by 2nd Coach Marican as Coach cannot attend our training.

Please attend training on time!

Training!

Training at Bukit Batok Field

Starts: 8am
Bring Team Fund and Wear Red Jersey,Black Shorts and Socks

Be punctual so that we can start and finish on time.
 
Madnoor and Hyrul bring back your training jerseys this week.Hyrul also collect from syamil and adly our training kits and bring them back this sunday.

Navin and friends are to bring their passport size photos for submission.

The whole team must be there.

Training Info

Training at Amk Field

Starts:10am

Bring Team Fund and Wear Red Jersey,Black Shorts and Socks

Be serious on the time the training starts.Meeting time will be 9am in jurong east mrt station.

We don't have much time to train together before the League starts so put some effort on your behalf too.

Prepare yourself the day before you come training. I.e. Drink plenty of water,Have a good night sleep,Don't go partying,Have a training mentality etc.

The whole team is expected. No excuses for anyone.

Raju and Sean has been omitted from the team and Navin have been added to the squad.

Madnoor and Hyrul bring back your training jerseys this week.Hyrul also collect from syamil and adly our training kits and bring them back this sunday.

Coach discharged after minor op...

Westlander’s football Coach Sam was ill in an intensive care unit two days back due to heart pain. He was discharged today after a minor op was performed to help him feel better.

Doctors described his condition as stable after the operation at Tan Tock Seng Hospital.
Coach was rushed to hospital when he encountered unusual pain in his chest during work. The doctor diagnosed him to have a few blocks in his arteries because of cholesterol.

As the team Captain, a relative of Westlanders Coach, I am urging all Westlanderians to help him with his recovery and well-being. Please rebuke him if he smokes in front of the team.

It is a rule from today that Coach should not smoke in front of us or even behind us, not even a kilometer away from us.

Smokers in our team also avoid asking him cigarettes and please do not help him buy cigarettes too. Smokers in the team also please do not smoke in front of him. That might entice him to smoking.

The doctor have told his family and me that his health condition can get bad to worse if he persists smoking and continues eating fatty food.
He has had 2 hours of surgery all through to find out the problem.

He has been a fantastic Coach for us and for the team, the least we can do is to help him stop smoking and of course play well in the upcoming league. (Performing well in the pre-season)


‘How stressful life is as a Westlanders manager’


He should be at home right now resting. You guys are welcomed to call and send your regards.

Latest information to take note: Make sure you bring black socks and shorts along with you for Sunday’s game.

Pre-Season Starts...

Date 20-Sep
Barclays Capital Football Club vs Westlanders United
8.15am (7.30am meet at Jurong East)
Henderson Sec School

Westlanders will be gearing up for our first pre-season match against Barclays Capital Football Club a Division 4 Sunday League Team.They have western-based players and have more experience in Espzen league.For more information you can click league information in helpful links.

We have to be prepared and take this chance to be match fit before the actual league starts.We must give our very best and see where we stand as team.

Westlanders manager Sam and a number of his senior players have confessed the manner of their team committment in the previous league still wrangles, with Coach admitting he would love another showdown with the new league with new challenges from his new set of young talented team.

It is up to the team loyals and newbies to make it up to Coach.

Another issue will be the time factor,several players are not taking the timing seriously.When Coach says 8am in the field,players take it as the so called 'Tamilan Timing'and come at 8.45am.

To avoid that,this week,all the players will be meeting at Jurong East Mrt Station at 7.30am sharp.Once we all meet,we'll leave to our destination.Please wake up early and don't make the whole team late.If you persist on coming late,than actions will be taken.This applies to the Westlanders Pioneers also.

Team news:

All muslims in team and Ruban are out due to time off till the end of Hari Raya and before Nov respectively.

I(Sathya) am out for another week at least.
The rest who came previous training may be handed the starting booth.While,the absentees of previous training have no reason to skip again.Bring team fund $10 along.

Opponents:

Pre-Season Starts...

Gear up! (Edited)

A small change in venue.The field we are training have been changed to Ngee Ann Poly Field.Satiesh will send all a message about how to get there.Other than that no changes.Please call coach if you do not know how to get there.

Field changed from Amk Field to Ngee Ann Poly Field. (Take Note)

Excused for training: Kumaran,Vasanth,Hyrul and Madnoor

See ya guys on Sunday morning 8am at Ngee Ann Field.

Gear up!

The meeting should have cleared all your doubts and encouraged us to committ ourselves to the team.Therefore,we shall start our trainings from next week onwards.Full training with full team.

Venue:Amk Field(13th Sep 09)

Time:8am(Training Starts)

Team Fund is $10.Please pay up accordingly because we will be pushing back the player's previous outstanding till the league ends.We do not want players to owe money to the team again.

Please do not be late.Be at the field 8am sharp all changed.

Saktivel,Yuvaraj and Anandraj Please bring your passport size photos next week for training.

Hyrul and Madnoor are excused from training until the fasting ends.

Very Very Important meeting!! Attendance is compulsary!!!

Satieshvaran Rajendran

Ravi Chandran

Jagan

Sasitheran Ramamoorthy

Kumaran

Murukesh

Reshibalan

Hyrul

Vasanthan

Madnoor

Kishore

Anandraj

Ranjan

Yasser

Ruban Rajenthiran (Time off;will return by Nov)

Yuvaraj

Marican M

Nazir Marican

Mahendran Chakrapani

Johann Marican

Sean

Varatharaju

Saktivel

Sathya

Dinesh

These are the players whom are selected and registered for the Espzen Sunday league.The rest are omitted.

Coach wants to meet all the registered players this coming sunday at lakeside hall,just opposide Lakeside Mrt Station. This meeting is compulsary and all are strictly told to come.No excuses please.

Team briefing about league and other issues will be discussed during this crucial meeting.

Therefore,no training this Sunday.

Instead:

Sunday (6th September 09)

Lakeside Hall

1pm

Please be there everybody...

Thank You

Thanks to those whom i did not expect but sent,called and consulted me with care and concerns upon my grandpa's departure. AND Thanks to those whom i expected to come down to my grandpa's funeral and be my side but did not. This week training will resume.All muslims are allowed to take their breaks from Westlanders Utd due to the fasting month. Training details.

Bukit Batok Field(30 Aug 09)

4.30pm

Demise

Sathya here,training this week is cancelled because my Grandfather passed away today morning.

Training

Training Venue: Bukit Batok Field Training Starts: Saturday-4.30pm (22 August 09) What to bring/wear: Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund Reply to Sathya or Coach by Wednesday night if you cannot make it.Thanks.

Make yourself free...

Training Venue: Ang Mo Kio Field

Training Starts: Sunday-4.30pm (16 August 09)

What to bring/wear: Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund

Information

Training is cancelled today.Confirmed team attendance is too low to resume.Pushed forward to next week.

Another week of fun

Training Venue: Ang Mo Kio Field Training Starts: Saturday-4pm What to bring/wear: Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund

Don’t be late. Keep track of your team fund balance. Inform earlier if you cannot make it.

Recap

We hope we gave Madnoor a sweet surprise last week.Unfortunately,our team funds were not strong enough to provide our very own player Madnoor a better night.We wish him a happening 27th b'day again.You can check out the photos at http://westlanders.groups.live.com/

Please join the group if you have not done so.

From Westlanders

Intense Training

Training on--25th July 09

Training Venue: Bukit Batok Field Training Starts: Saturday-4pm What to bring/wear: Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund

Don’t be late. Kumaran,Adly and Satish didn't inform their absence and it is very disappointing for us, the team. We are urging you to act responsibly and notify us earlier if you cannot make it. It has been noted that some of you still persist informing coach last minute,please inform earlier. Inform Coach or reply to this post by wednesday night if you cannot turn up for training.

Off

There is no official training this saturday.

However,Few of us will still be having a kick-a-bout at Rulang Field at 5pm this Saturday.

If you are interested,please do do do reply to this post by latest wednesday...

If not,you can carry on with your own stuff.

Training Info

Training Venue: Ang Mo Kio Field

Training on: Conditioning and Strategy Movement

Training Starts: Saturday-4pm

What to bring/wear: Track Shoes, Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund

1. Don’t be late.
2. Keep track of your team fund balance from previous post.
3. Last week's turnout was good and we don't expect attendance to be a burden anymore.
4. Only Kumaran did not inform Coach about his absence;
5. Inform Coach or reply to this post by wednesday night if you cannot turn up for training,don't sabotage the rest of the team.

Summarization

Training Venue: Ang Mo Kio Field

Training Starts: 4pm (Leave earlier from home)

What to bring/wear: Track Shoes, Boots, Training Kit, Water Bottle and Team Fund Note*Don’t be late unless you wish to run extra rounds. I would like to remind each Westlander their balance in team fund. Take note of your amount and pay up.

Let’s work out this Saturday and overcome Coach’s hell of a training!

Yasser:$138 Hyrul:$136 Rp:$130 Mohan:$126 Satish:$74 Kumaran:$73 Saktivel:$64-(Bring along passport size photo) Jagan:$60 Adly:$51-(Collect jersey from Syamil) Vasanthan:$50 Ryan:$30 Ruban:$12 Eric:$10-(Bring along passport size photo) Kishen:$10-(Bring along passport size photo) Yazit:$5-(Bring along passport size photo) Madnoor:$5-(Bring along passport size photo) Sasi:$5 Murukesh:$3 Ravi:$3 Reshi:$0 Satiesh:$-5 Sathya:$-15

The Good,The Bad and The Ugly (Posted By Coach)

Dear players,

I am very sorry to inform you, but I have decided to withdraw Westlanders from the D2D league. Mainly, there are two predominant reasons.

Reason 1:

The organizer wants us to play a rematch against La Familia Uno because we did not comply with FIFA rules, which is to play at least 30 mins before a game could be called off.Furthermore,the organizer kept mocking us for the past incidents in the past season where Jagan spat on the referee and other infamous incidents. They blame us for almost every fight that happened. The organizer also has a bad image on us in his mind. That’s why whatever reasons we gave to support the truth was ignored by the organizer. We are not in the fault and yet the organizers kept holding responsible on us which made me feel very bad and disheartened by the blind remarks. We all knew Hyrul was a victim in the incident but the organizer totally ignored that incident and blamed us for the fight which we did not start. As a coach it is my duty to take care of the players and the team image. I personally decided to withdraw from the league where we are not respected and trusted. I hope all the players would understand my decision and stand along it for a better future in our team.

Reason 2:

$ Team Fund $ $985.With these amount we could have bought a new set of jerseys for ourselves and there will still be remaining money in our team fund kept by me. This is the amount yet to be settled by our players. Last week, we only collected $43.The rest I had to fork out from my pocket. I don’t mind paying for the team at crucial times but this is happening all the time. I cannot be paying all the time for the team. You guys should have the responsibility to pay up also. Can you all recall what sasi posted on our blog? If not, go read that post again. I am very disappointed with the team’s attitude. Just imagine what if I don’t have any cash in my pocket last week. What would have happened? We would have embarrassed ourselves in front of the referee, opponents and mainly the organizer who is already thinking we are a bad team. We can’t even collect $100 per game. From last season onwards, Mostly, I have been paying the remaining balance. I am currently unemployed but still I did pay the outstanding for u all. How? Did the money fall from the sky? I too have to do my part in contributing to Westlanders.

If an unemployed man like me can do it? What can’t you? Think about it…

I am sick and tired repeating these every single week.Reshi is a good example here. He initially owed $97.The same time some of you all owed $90 to $120.But today, He completed his fund and also paid one week in advance. He told me in one of the games that he saved up weekly and avoided spending unnecessarily from his allowances to pay for the team. This is the spirit I expected from the rest. I was touched by his committed act towards the team. Please guys…Please pay up your balance. I cannot keep on answering the other players who are regularly paying.

I’ll make sure we will be back in a different league where it is definitely better than the previous league. Before we go into the new league, I have to do some changes in the team I.e. Formations and Fitness, Discipline. We have lost many good players and have new players yet to settle down in our team formations. Due to that, I need to have trainings with the full squad so that I can make changes in the team. We will be having training the next couple of weeks at Ang Mo Kio Field at 4pm Saturdays. I just started my work and on Saturdays I am still working, but I will rush to the venue after my work as it is nearer to my place. You guys shouldn’t have any problem because we have been travelling every week around Singapore for games. Be punctual. Whoever is later than me; have to run 5 rounds around the field before joining the training.

Please take note, if you cannot make it; please inform me by Wednesday night. If you cannot contact me, leave a message in this blog. I will only excuse certain people other than that I want the whole team to be in the field by 4pm.Team fund will still continue…Please use this period to pay up (Esp. those who owe a lot) and brush up your fitness before our next tournament begins. I am very serious about the upcoming tornament; I want to prove that Westlanders is the best of the best. We can do it…We have the talent. We are the rising stars…

See you all this Saturday! Be ready for hell of a training!

NO MORE MR NICE GUY!

Game info

Westlanders Utd vs EUFC

Tanglin 4pm

We are taking on Eufc, the current league leaders after beating La familia Uno 2-1. Westlanders are well-known for delivering surprises against top teams.Nevertheless, our full concentration should be on beating them this saturday.We are on a relatively good form after beating Royals 1-0.However, we should not take Eufc lightly.They are a good team and have beaten us 2-1 very uncomfortably.Although, we gave them a good fight in Clementi woods, this time the end-results are more important. Interestingly, Westlanders have ever losed in Tanglin. Hope, Lady Luck is also on our side… Please be at the field by 4pm as usual.Wear your training kit to the field.Most importantly,bring your team fund.We cannot expect Coach or the regulars to keeping paying all the time.

Victory

Temasek Royals 0 vs 1 Westlanders Utd (Ravi)

Good game.We have back to the winning ways.Our last victory was at First Toa Payoh Sec against RNS United.Hope,we play like this week in and out with the fighting spirit.Losing streak should stop here...

Victory

Temasek Royals 0 vs 1 Westlanders Utd (Ravi)

Good game.We have

Game info...

Temasek Royals vs Westlanders Utd Beatty 4pm

Guys, be at the field by 4pm.The nearest MRT station will be Toa Payoh.Bring along your team funds.If,you owe more than 10 dollars,you are expected to bring at least 7 dollars.We have throughly talked out what is the team expectations last week.We should put all the talkings about commitment and contribution(team fund) into action this saturday.

Enough of admin matters.We can beat our next opponents if we put in our heart.We drew with them the last time we met.

Defence was sloppy and attack was predictable.That shouldn't be the case this time.

Gear up for the showdown with Temasek Royals! It's a battle to regain our team status back!

Post by Sasi

Dear friends, Firstly, I would to congratulate the team on its first win of the tournament. However, I would like to mention another very important matter.Please don't classfiy what I am going to say as a mere repetition. I don't know whether anyone noticed in yesterday's meeting when coach suggested to hyrul that the team fund would pay for his medical expenses if the need arises. It was then only, I realised the true reason why we (or most significantly, I) pay the team fund. I originally thought I was just paying for the sake of it; to just be in the team. However, when coach mentioned that statement, it changed my wrong perception forever. We got to admit that we are just the usual neighbourhood team with no proper facilities or benefits that a professional team has. We are playing matches in & out every week. (ToUCHWOOD)Anything could happen to us(ToUCHWOOD). We get "slided", we get "tackled" and vice versa. Some could be harmless, some could put us out the game. The only resource we could depend on and that, that is of our right is our team fund. We know owe in the hundreds'. Imagine if this was paid up, we could have a very safe and secure amount that could/would help any of us in any dire circumstances (something like insurance money or medisave). For example, Imagine we had that much of money, we could have paid for adly's fracture. So please, whenever you entertain about not paying your team fund, think of us or.. rather think about yourselves. If you had laid down seriously injured, how are you going to pay for medical expenses?. Remember, Small things make up the Big picture. If you don't take your health seriously and thus don't care about paying your bit of the team fund. Then you can forget about the team paying for your medical issues when the need arises. Try not to ignore this message and try to understand what i am trying to say. Choices do have consequences. Sasitheran S/O Rama Moorthy